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PostSubject: So What is Grund   Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:15 pm

Being like most people working outside is a bit of a no no of late. So what do us men do when we are bored, decorating. ::

Well we bought a paint that when finished looks like an embossed wallpaper, very expensive but its good. But when we purchased the paint we were told you must paint the walls first with Grund, well its like painting with water and it stinks. So just what is it? Its like an undercoat but not a very good one

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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:14 pm

Grund is a watered down PVA adesive You can get the same effect by using white wood glue and water mixed. 50x50 mix When you use it use old brushes as it will tarnish the metal on the brush and you have to throw brushes away. When you use this grund leave it for 24 hours before painting over.
Very interested in the paint what did you use.
where did you get it.
Grund or the glue water mix can be used to seal new plaster too
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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:34 pm

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Grund is a watered down PVA adesive You can get the same effect by using white wood glue and water mixed. 50x50 mix When you use it use old brushes as it will tarnish the metal on the brush and you have to throw brushes away. When you use this grund leave it for 24 hours before painting over.
Very interested in the paint what did you use.
where did you get it.
Grund or the glue water mix can be used to seal new plaster too
hope this helps

Thank you for that.

We bought the paint in a shop near to ABC in Yambol. If going from the Pazzar down towards ABC the shop is on a corner on the right hand side. They also sell Sadolin and Ham :Great:erite paints, plus a good selection of British, German and Italian paints. This one is Italian and costs 10 leva per square meter.

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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:52 pm

thank you for that we will have a look. Nice to have some thing different.
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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:15 pm

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
Being like most people working outside is a bit of a no no of late. So what do us men do when we are bored, decorating. ::

Well we bought a paint that when finished looks like an embossed wallpaper, very expensive but its good. But when we purchased the paint we were told you must paint the walls first with Grund, well its like painting with water and it stinks. So just what is it? Its like an undercoat but not a very good one

Doing DIY and decorating here in BG is a lot different to the UK. First of all you have to find the Bulgaski name for whatever you are purchasing and then work out how to use it. I bought some undercoat and it is thinner than water and when used does absolutely nothing, so that was a waste of money. BG gloss of course is nothing like Dulux or Crown and is also thinner than the British makes, one winter and it needs a good look at and probably doing all over again. I had heard of Grund, we needed to use it to form a good base over the walls before using their emulsion. Cheap emulsion is not worth buying either, you get what you pay for and it is advisable to buy the best for good results.
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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:27 pm

Is that the shop where they will mix paint?
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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:16 pm

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Is that the shop where they will mix paint?

There are 2 shops that will mix paint in Yambol. This one and one in the Pazar car park.

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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:30 pm

Surely Tony60 you mean 10lev a litre not square metre, our lounge/hall with the ceiling is about 100 sq metres that would be 1,000 lev to paint, one room, I would expect gold leaf for that price. We use an excellent paint which costs about 74 lev, gives a beautiful textured finish, and is very easy to apply.
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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:58 am

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Surely Tony60 you mean 10lev a litre not square metre, our lounge/hall with the ceiling is about 100 sq metres that would be 1,000 lev to paint, one room, I would expect gold leaf for that price. We use an excellent paint which costs about 74 lev, gives a beautiful textured finish, and is very easy to apply.

No i mean what I said they sell the paint according to the area you wish to cover., and yes it is very expensive. That is why hotels use it for its durability

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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Thu Feb 14, 2013 9:39 am

I add the Grund direct to the "
latex"
paint when it has to be diluted, seems to make it more durable.
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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:53 pm

I'll stick with my Dulux Weathershield for the outside stuff and the Dulux Interior for the other. After almost 5 and a half years it's showing no sign of 'giving up the ghost', so will use it again when it's time to repaint. It's very readily available down here..also I brand I grew up with, so no reason to change.
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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:48 pm

Dont blame you - I am sticking with ours, it is just like `Dulux, very hard wearing.
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PostSubject: Re: So What is Grund   Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:37 pm

Totally agree my friend,,the prices, and it seems, the results, are very much the same.
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