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PostSubject: Malaysian Flight MH370   Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:21 am

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Malaysia Airlines said it lost contact with a plane carrying 239 people on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.
The plane disappeared on March 8, the problem is, with so little directional information to start with (six and a partial seventh ping, transmitted at hourly intervals), are we SURE we are even searching the right ocean? Why have we heard NOTHING from Rolls Royce re the real time engine management monitoring system? If those following the serious clues left available there is only one question to ask. Why does no one mention the Indian Oceans most advanced and secure air base, the stationary Aircraft Carrier located south of the southern tip of India called Diego Garcia? Not a peep. Not even an indication of a US managed military installation that monitors everything in this war region. In fact the best old metaphor regarding the lack of reference to this location is “The Silence Is Deafening.” Only one nation on earth has the technology to remotely block a planes radar and communications if they felt their base was under threat from a terrorist attack. I believe in the coming days or weeks it will be the USA who find evidence that the plane crashed ??? but in fact I believe it was probably shot down.
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:38 pm

Given the number of spy satellites the USA has, I just do not believe that the Americans don't know exactly what happened to this plane. Since no technology currently exists apparently ? that can tell investigators exactly where the plane is, that effectively means the most expensive, complex search in aviation history is over. Incredible yet we can find our IPhones and Ipads when they go missing.
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:27 pm

Last month, officials responsible for locating missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 announced that their two-year, $150 million search has come to an end. Having searched an area the size of Pennsylvania and three miles deep, they’ve found no trace of the plane. So what next I wonder??????
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PostSubject: subject   Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:38 pm

What's next?...looking in the right place might be a good place to start!

Sallyann is on the right track.


Just in case anyone is a tad confused, have a look at sites like 'Flight Radar24' and any number of similar sites. Aircraft from almost any part of the world can be tracked visually for their entire time in the air...last month I tracked the flight my MIL used from Schipol to Toronto, for every minute of the time the aircraft was in the air! When she landed and phoned us to report a safe trip, we were able to say.."we know, and asked how she handled the bumpy part half way across the Atlantic" ...it's that accurate!

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You can select any position on the globe and see what's flying...click on any little yellow aircraft symbol and the little info box which comes up will give the flight number, where it came from, where it's going, aircraft type and registration (almost always with a nice coloured pic of the exact aircraft) and its speed and altitude. You can also select an option to track that particular flight and it will show you EXACTLY what it is doing, including any variation in its flight path. I've been using this site for quite a few years and it was certainly available and working when this flight went missing...imagine what the super Govt versions are capable of. (This is where the comment by sallyann starts to make sense).

As I wrote above, this is one of a number of similar systems which exist out there...some are capable of recording and replaying radio transmissions between aircraft and control centres for the entire flight, regardless of the distances involved...radio talk between ATC and aircraft, arriving at, or departing from most airports, in most countries has been available for anyone to listen to, for many years.

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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:30 am

How can an airplane go missing when every aircraft is being tracked anywhere in the world
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:44 pm

Good question Brian, I recently watched a tv program on this plane and apparently we have to technology to drop something from space like a mobile phone and then send out a blind man with a tracker to find it but we can't find a giant plane
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:08 pm

Since no technology currently exists that can tell investigators exactly where the plane is, that effectively means the most expensive, complex search in aviation history is over. Incredible yet we can find our IPhones and Ipads when they go missing. Surely this must be addressed?
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:21 pm

They would never give up the search if they genuinely didn't know what happened would they! They've given the illusion of searching for the best part of 3 years to satisfy the family and worlds media, knowing full well they would find nothing because they know the truth. Either the crash site isn't where they've searched or its been cleaned up already or there is the possibility it landed all along. The search should continue or the truth needs to comes out. Malaysia also need to answer why they did not respond appropriately (especially post 9. 11) to a passenger plane which had gone silent and was flying off a deviated and unauthorised flight path! For all they knew this was terrorism and the aircraft was destined for the side of a building! Why weren't jets sent to intercept and investigate? Had they done, we would know exactly what happened...Whether the aircraft was on fire, a ghost flight etc. Very suspicious...and then there is the lack of debris to consider!
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:23 pm

Very heartbreaking for the families not having closure. It is mind-boggling to me though, in today's day and age of technology, when we could spot a dime on a sidewalk from space, and big brother is ALWAYS watching, why can we not find this plane? Even if it is broken up in the sea no luggage, no body parts, no large pieces of plane…?Very odd indeed!
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:23 pm

That plane was headed for Western Australia and it had to pass a US base that not many knew about in Diego Garcia , I say someone had to make a decision , a rogue aircraft would have been picked up on radar and it's either going to hit Diego Garcia or Perth WA , it is not too much of a stretch to figure out what happened next !
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:13 pm

It's been three years and in that time only a few parts -- small ones -- have washed up. This was a big plane and you would think it would have broken into many pieces if it hit the water, and that those pieces would have washed up all over the place. But no. Which is why I don't think the plane crashed, as certain people would have us believe, and that the "wreckage" was dumped as red herrings. "
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:22 am

Maybe a mystery to the general public BUT this plane isn't as "missing" as they want us to believe. They know exactly where it is.
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:58 pm

We will never know what happened because of the huge cover up. My heart goes out to all the family's who have no closure.
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:44 pm

For those with an interest in the case I would urge you to consider this report published by researcher Mick Gilbert last year and updated in December:

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This is the strongest hypothesis to date of the theory that the plane's disappearance was an accident. It is a 36 page report, but a summary of it would be:

Boeing has had a number of fires in its windscreen heaters over the years, which crews have put out using fire extinguishers in the cabin while wearing oxygen masks. Gilbert suggests that what happened here. However unlike in other incidents, Gilbert's analysis of the plane's service records suggests that the emergency oxygen system in the cockpit was leaking. Of course fires are far more severe when there is a higher oxygen content, so the leak would have made it far worse, with the heat tripping the circuit breakers on the left hand ceiling of the cockpit, knocking out (among other things) the VHF radios, the active transponder and the autothrottle. In a fire, the first thing on the checklist is to remove the power to the element that's burning; on a Boeing 777, that would mean turning off the Left AC Bus, which crucially also controls the satellite communications equipment.
In this theory, the first turn back over Malaysia is an attempt to turn towards the nearest big runway, specifically Penang, and no radio transmission followed because the heat of the fire tripped the circuit breakers to the radios. Then the windscreen blew, depressurising the plane. The other turns - whether executed by a surviving pilot or someone else - are attempts to keep the plane from major population centres while they try to regain control until at some stage any surviving pilot is out of supplemental oxygen and passes out with the plane pointing south.

I mention this report because this would also explain why people have been looking in the wrong area: a plane with a blown-out windscreen would encounter far greater drag and have gone less far than an intact and piloted one. And a plane that spent some time circling (probably near Banda Aceh) while trying to regain some control would have burned fuel doing so.

Clearly, obviously, this is just a hypothesis and with no aircraft to examine there's no proof at all that he's right. But to me, it's very credible, and a lot more comforting in a way than thinking somebody deliberately murdered hundreds of innocent people.

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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:50 pm

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The cockpit fires are the most probable known-about likely fault to have caused a problem for a B.777.

However, with the plane damaged and the crew possibly incapacitated, are its subsequent course changes and periods of steady flight consistent with what a fire could have done to the controls?

Is the state of the debris found consistent with a steep fast dive to the sea or some kind of automatic relatively gentle ditching. The flapperon seems to have been only wrenched off ........ there is a RR badge piece which could also have been detached when the engines might have come off when ditching. The few bits recovered appear to be from the plane' exterior. If it did come down and settle fairly intact and sank, would that accord with the lack of detached wreckage. Some made it to the African east coast but if MH370 had disintegrated on impact would there not be a lot more with it?
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PostSubject: Re: Malaysian Flight MH370   Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:01 pm

Something catastrophic in our world happened and eventually the plane will be recovered, maybe not in our life time but at some point in future.
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