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PostSubject: Syria conflict   Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:40 am

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So the majority of the UK doesn't want war but our government seals all our fate. We've been doing it for years and in my opinion, it's only getting worse. Russia seems to be doing more than the US has done in a short period of time. There are many countries all involved. I have a feeling our government just want to get involved so they don't miss out when the oil rich country is taken over and the spoils of War carved out.

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PostSubject: Re: Syria conflict   Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:08 pm

We had a task force specialised to deal with this type of threat and what did the government do? A cost cutting exercise which reduced the army, navy and air force, the main things we need to defend ourselves as a nation. I agree ISIS must be stopped but at what cost to the UK? Cameron and his goons need to understand we are even more at risk now than ever before. Will he still be saying he did the right thing when the loss of life increases in the UK? Will he be the one to show his support to the UK or use his Aeroplane to transport him, his family to another country for safety? How many innocent lives both here and across the world will be lost? While no-one liked Gadaffi and Hussain they effectively kept a lid on things through fear. If we knew then what we know now, would the decision to kill/execute them have been made?
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PostSubject: Re: Syria conflict   Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:38 pm

And how is this bombing campaign going to make us safer ? The dangers are here, and in other country's. We've been letting them in for years under the misguided "tolerance" policy. But of course it's much easier to sanction bombing in the Middle East than sorting out the people who shouldn't be in the UK, isn't it ? Why isn't the government spending the bombing money on thoroughly investigating people in the UK ? Answer: because we have weak and paranoid politicians who are propped up by a weak and pathetic cotton-wool society, and who have been weakened by organisations such as the european court of human rights. Political correctness has a lot to answer for too. It's all connected somewhere, and the bad guys know it.
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PostSubject: Re: Syria conflict   Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:57 pm

The problem is that bombing isn't enough. We need to cut off the finances and stop supplying them with weapons. We need to remove Assad so his regime can no longer commit atrocities against his people on a daily basis. We need to be on the ground, with a coalition, for a very long time - beating back any rebels until a truly democratic government can be formed. And we need to remain in place for a long time after - helping to rebuild, helping to stabilize the government, helping to protect. An occupation may sound terrible... but it doesn't have to be. What we need to do is have a sustainable plan. The reasons non of our actions have worked so far is because they have been based on reactions. We don't need reactions, we need a sustainable, reasonable and we'll considered long game. The whole region not only needs to be defended and rebuilt - but also needs many, many, many years to recover and stabilize so that people can safely return home.
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PostSubject: Re: Syria conflict   Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:40 pm

I am not saying if it is right or wrong, l don't live there, glad l didn't have to make that decision .. all l am saying is watch out UK for many years ahead as they will try and get revenge in whatever way they can .. and they are everywhere, they must be stopped but how ... l can't think how. Fighting an invisible enemy for the most part ... awful situation. innocent lives will be lost but on the other hand they didn't care about innocent lives being lost when they planted their bombs etc. There is an old saying "fight fire with fire". I just hope it is short and sharp.
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PostSubject: Re: Syria conflict   Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:49 pm

Although it is right to combat terrorism, I do wonder if we are poking a hornet's nest by starting this wave of bombing of ISIS. They will know what is planned and will have moved all their people and equipment away from the known sites, so we could be just bombing sand. Also, I fear for the repercussions. This isn't like the two World Wars where the enemy conveniently wore identifying uniforms - this enemy is invisible and hidden among our society. Also, these people have no care for life - not even their own - so are a deadly stealth enemy. I hope this country doesn't live to regret this action and that innocent people don't pay the price for it.
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